{"id":5196,"date":"2016-10-03T14:05:05","date_gmt":"2016-10-03T18:05:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/?p=5196"},"modified":"2021-10-27T16:51:34","modified_gmt":"2021-10-27T20:51:34","slug":"pixies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/pixies\/","title":{"rendered":"Pixies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/pixies.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5197\" src=\"http:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/pixies.jpg\" alt=\"Pixies\" width=\"590\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/pixies.jpg 590w, https:\/\/agitreader.com\/wp2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/pixies-300x203.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My favorite moment in talking with fabled Pixies axeman Joey Santiago occurs in the first few minutes of our conversation, when I can hear him turn to his teenage daughter in response to a question about whether he likes the band\u2019s new album, <i>Head Carrier<\/i>. \u201cAre you annoyed that I listen to it a lot?\u201d Santiago asks her as he drives. \u201cNo,\u201d she responds, affirming that she\u2019s listened to all of the band\u2019s albums.\u201cFor me, it is the catchiest.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The highly anticipated record is indeed a strong return to form for a group whose output in the late \u201980s and early \u201990s is among indie rock\u2019s most revered catalogs. (Speaking of the band\u2019s billing below Radiohead at Coachella in 2004, Thom Yorke bemoaned, \u201cThe Pixies opening for us is like The Beatles opening for us. I won\u2019t allow it.\u201d) <i>Head Carrier<\/i> is the second collection of songs the band has released since bassist Kim Deal (also of The Breeders) left the band in 2013 and its first \u201cproper\u201d album since reconvening in 2004 after an 11-year hiatus. (Several previously released EPs of new music were combined as <i>Indie Cindy<\/i> in 2014.) Produced by Tom Dalgety, it is an alternately elegant and thunderous affair, featuring some of the best songs lead singer Black Francis has written in years and a notably strong performance from Paz Lenchantin, who replaces Deal on bass and backup vocals.<\/p>\n<p>I caught up with Santiago about a month ahead of the album\u2019s September 30 release date and a couple weeks before the band announced that the guitarist had checked into a rehabilitation facility for drug and alcohol issues. During our talk, there was no indication of anything amiss, and Santiago seemed happy to discuss the new tracks, the Pixies\u2019 storied legacy, and Lenchantin\u2019s place within it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you like the new record?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joey Santiago:<\/strong> Do I like it? I love it! I listen to it a lot. It sounds retro and poppy, kind of like a <i>Doolittle<\/i> album.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you think this is an extension of the Pixies\u2019 sounds? I say \u201csounds\u201d because I don\u2019t think all your records sound the same. Or is this new territory?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> On this one, we pretty much embraced the past. That\u2019s what I think we wanted to do, and Tom was privy to that. He wanted to make it sound very \u201cPixies-ish,\u201d and I also purposefully did the old style again.<\/p>\n<p><b>What are your favorite songs?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> I like \u201cHead Carrier,\u201d \u201cClassic Masher,\u201d \u201cBel Esprit,\u201d \u201cAll I Think About Now,\u201d \u201cAll the Saints\u201d\u2014basically a lot of them.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cHead Carrier\u201d reminds me of \u201cBone Machine.\u201d I don\u2019t know if I\u2019m off-base with that\u2014something about the guitar on that track. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> I guess I could see that. Everything has its past DNA on this record. You can definitely identify it as the Pixies. We definitely embraced the past with this one. I gave up and said, \u201cOkay, I\u2019ll do what I usually do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>What\u2019s that? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> (Laughing) What I usually do\u2014make it sound like the Pixies! It just became that way. I think I\u2019m allowed to rip off myself.<\/p>\n<p><b>Absolutely. I read somewhere that Charles typically writes songs and then gives them to you to \u201cpixify.\u201d Is that what you mean?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> I probably said that, though he might have said it too. That\u2019s what it is. I can\u2019t help it. It\u2019s the only way I know how to formulate a chord progression. That\u2019s basically the only way I know how to do it.<\/p>\n<p><b>I read in the press materials that David Lovering said some of the <i>Indie Cindy<\/i> songs \u201churt him\u201d and this one made him \u201cvery, very happy.\u201d What do you think of this record compared to <i>Indie Cindy<\/i>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Well, Kim leaving was devastating, and on <i>Indie Cindy<\/i> we explored the future and something that was different. It\u2019s good that <i>Indie Cindy<\/i> sounds like that, like a history of a team member leaving. It should sound like that. It\u2019s almost like an homage, whereas <i>Head Carrier<\/i> sounds like we found someone that\u2019s part of our DNA. As Charles would say, Paz is part of the Pixies. She\u2019s been with us for three years, and she\u2019s a weirdo just like us. She\u2019s perfect for us and you could tell that we found someone that relates to us. We\u2019re very, very glad she\u2019s there. Otherwise, we would not have asked her to join the band.<\/p>\n<p><b>What does she bring to the band that\u2019s different?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Her bass playing is her own style, and so are her vocals. She gives a lot of great suggestions\u2014a lot of them\u2014and none of them have failed. She\u2019ll make a suggestion, and we\u2019ll go, \u201cFuck, she\u2019s right again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>In the songwriting? Before you get to the studio?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Stacking the sandwich, as we like to call it. She\u2019s very instrumental in that.<\/p>\n<p><b>Personality question: what\u2019s one thing about Paz that might surprise people?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> She\u2019s hilarious. Her and I have this&#8230; what would you call it? We challenge ourselves to make the stupidest joke. We try to out-do stupid with each other.<\/p>\n<p><b>Can you remember any?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> There\u2019s a lot of them. Once we were leaving a festival and we noticed that Arcade Fire had their own washing machine and dryer, and she said, \u201cOh, it\u2019s the arcade dryer.\u201d That\u2019s my favorite one.<\/p>\n<p><b>What about Charles? Anything surprising about him? Do you have a joke-off as well?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Charles has a dry, dry, dry sense of humor. And he understands my humor. I\u2019ve got a strange sense of humor, but when I say something, he\u2019ll translate it for everyone.<\/p>\n<p><b>What about David?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Mr. Stoic. He\u2019s funny too, and also he\u2019s very knowledgeable about nature and animals. To me, I see a squirrel and it\u2019s just a squirrel. If he was here, he could explain its behavior, what it\u2019s doing now, and interesting facts about that animal. He just loves nature and little critters and animals.<\/p>\n<p><b>In terms of creating this record, did you feel any more pressure due to the legacy that you guys have and the expectations from people?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> No, not at all. We kind of subconsciously knew that we were going to embrace the past. Also, once you get into the studio, once the record button is on, you just get to work. It\u2019s the only time we get to entertain ourselves. Our job is to entertain people, but when we\u2019re in the studio, it\u2019s our turn to get entertained. This time around, it was all about the Pixies, and we didn\u2019t feel any pressure at all because we worked hard at it, and if you work hard at something like that, it\u2019s going to come out good.<\/p>\n<p><b>You guys worked with a new producer, and he reportedly nixed some stuff. How many of those songs were cut? How many aren\u2019t we hearing?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> I think there are five \u201cB-sides.\u201d We were surprised that he chose some of them as the B-sides, but we totally trust him. We had a few songs we didn\u2019t even bother recording because he said they were \u201cpedestrian.\u201d He said if we were making a Creedence Clearwater album, then yes, we could do that. We love CCR, but his perspective is that he knows what the Pixies are all about. He seems to have studied it.<\/p>\n<p><b>I\u2019m surprised to hear CCR. To hear you guys play that style would be kind of interesting. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Yeah, it would be. But thanks to Tom we kind of veered away from it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Are there any Pixies songs you wish you hadn\u2019t done?<br \/>\nJS:<\/b> You would be surprised that I am not particularly fond of \u201cMonkey Gone to Heaven.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Oh yeah? Is that because of how much you\u2019ve played it and how popular it became or have you always not liked that song?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> It\u2019s just weird. I don\u2019t know. The crowd loves it. I just don\u2019t get it. I guess \u201c5, 6, 7,\u201d that\u2019s funny to me. That\u2019s the funny moment, that\u2019s kind of what I like about it. I just&#8230; I have no idea.<\/p>\n<p><b>What do you think is the best Pixies album?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> It\u2019s between <i>Surfer Rosa<\/i> and <i>Doolittle<\/i>. I would say <i>Surfer Rosa<\/i> is a good introduction to us, what the Pixies are and where we started.<\/p>\n<p><b>Even \u201cTony\u2019s Theme?\u201d<br \/>\nJS:<\/b> I like \u201cTony\u2019s Theme.\u201d I do.<\/p>\n<p><b>Is there a song you\u2019ve ever wanted the Pixies to cover?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> Right now I am into this song by Canned Heat called \u201cPoor Moon.\u201d I think we could do it some justice. The backing vocals are very \u201cus\u201d too, so I think we could pull it off. It\u2019s a great song. It\u2019s the most esoteric one I\u2019ve heard from Canned Heat.<\/p>\n<p><b>I was reading an article in <em>The Quietus<\/em>, I think, and you were talking about some of your favorite records: Hendrix, the Beatles, Lou Reed, Bowie, and so on. Do you recognize the Pixies to be of that iconic caliber?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> \u201cIconic\u201d in a way that we\u2019ve managed to luckily run upon our own style. It just became very magical. We\u2019re very identifiable and thankfully pretty good at the identifiable. It doesn\u2019t warrant \u201csuckiness.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you hear your influence in other bands today?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JS:<\/strong> People tell me about something, and I get it. That\u2019s the stupid problem I had with embracing the past with <i>Head Carrier,<\/i> ripping off that sound. 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